Discussion:
OT: warning about 194040 scam
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Michael C
2006-05-04 12:51:21 UTC
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I wouldn't normally send SMSs into competitions but I saw one on the box the
other day and having a $49 cap I thought why not, I may as well use the cap.
The idea is if you answer a really simple question correctly then you go
into a competition. But that's not what happens. If you get the first
question right they ask you another and another up to 5 questions. The SMSs
cost $2 to both send and receive so by the time you've answered all 5
questions you've already spent $20. And the prizes aren't that great, they
give away something like 3 xboxes per week nationally. I only sent the 1 sms
and stopped there but now they keep sending me messages every week. At first
I though they'd get sick of sending them but they never will because they
make $2 every time they send a message. And they send multiple messages at
once, they never say everything they need to say in 1 message suprise
suprise.

If anyone's got the same problem the solution is to phone 1300 650 521
(local call cost) and tell them that you phoned them immediately after
getting the first message to unsubscribe but they failed to unsubscribe you
hence you want a refund after the first message. I believe they are one of
these companies that rely on people not pushing for a refund so don't argue
when you ask for one. You could tell them that you never sent the first
message and they'd probably give you a full refund.

Anyway, just thought I'd let some people know. BTW, if anyone want to tell
me how stupid I am and how smart they are because they would never enter a
"competition" like this don't bother, I'm not interested. I never imagined
something that is advertised on the major networks would be so dodgy. I also
never imagined that it was possible for a company to charge me for sending
an SMS to me. If anyone's wondering how they can do that apparently it's in
the fine print on the tele and when you first send them a message you are
agreeing to subscribe to a paid service.

Michael
Mark Harriss
2006-05-04 12:54:57 UTC
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Post by Michael C
I wouldn't normally send SMSs into competitions but I saw one on the box the
other day and having a $49 cap I thought why not, I may as well use the cap.
The idea is if you answer a really simple question correctly then you go
into a competition. But that's not what happens. If you get the first
question right they ask you another and another up to 5 questions. The SMSs
cost $2 to both send and receive so by the time you've answered all 5
questions you've already spent $20. And the prizes aren't that great, they
give away something like 3 xboxes per week nationally. I only sent the 1 sms
and stopped there but now they keep sending me messages every week. At first
I though they'd get sick of sending them but they never will because they
make $2 every time they send a message. And they send multiple messages at
once, they never say everything they need to say in 1 message suprise
suprise.
If anyone's got the same problem the solution is to phone 1300 650 521
(local call cost) and tell them that you phoned them immediately after
getting the first message to unsubscribe but they failed to unsubscribe you
hence you want a refund after the first message. I believe they are one of
these companies that rely on people not pushing for a refund so don't argue
when you ask for one. You could tell them that you never sent the first
message and they'd probably give you a full refund.
Anyway, just thought I'd let some people know. BTW, if anyone want to tell
me how stupid I am and how smart they are because they would never enter a
"competition" like this don't bother, I'm not interested. I never imagined
something that is advertised on the major networks would be so dodgy. I also
never imagined that it was possible for a company to charge me for sending
an SMS to me. If anyone's wondering how they can do that apparently it's in
the fine print on the tele and when you first send them a message you are
agreeing to subscribe to a paid service.
Michael
Interesting technique to make money out of nothing, I wonder if the
X-boxes even exist
Michael C
2006-05-04 13:30:07 UTC
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Post by Mark Harriss
Interesting technique to make money out of nothing, I wonder if the
X-boxes even exist
I suspect they do. I believe they would be making a shitload of money, no
point screwing it all up for not giving away 3 xboxes :-)

The other thing I was going to mention was after all this the charges are
apparently not included in capped plans, although I don't seem to have been
charged any extra. So I might actually end up making money out of it (or at
least getting some of my cap back :-).

Michael
Spankalogical Protocol
2006-05-04 13:34:12 UTC
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Post by Michael C
never imagined that it was possible for a company to charge me for sending
an SMS to me. If anyone's wondering how they can do that apparently it's in
the fine print on the tele and when you first send them a message you are
agreeing to subscribe to a paid service.
That is correct. It's very fine print, but it is there.

Betcha they catch a lot of kids out.
Michael C
2006-05-04 13:39:06 UTC
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Post by Spankalogical Protocol
That is correct. It's very fine print, but it is there.
Apparently you used to need a high def LCD otherwise the fine print was cut
off, but they got into some shit over that one.
Post by Spankalogical Protocol
Betcha they catch a lot of kids out.
Yep, I did a bit of a google and it was mainly kids complaining about their
prepaid account suddenly being empty.

Michael
Andrew M
2006-05-04 21:51:46 UTC
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On Thu, 4 May 2006 23:34:12 +1000, "Spankalogical Protocol"
Post by Spankalogical Protocol
Post by Michael C
never imagined that it was possible for a company to charge me for sending
an SMS to me. If anyone's wondering how they can do that apparently it's
in
Post by Michael C
the fine print on the tele and when you first send them a message you are
agreeing to subscribe to a paid service.
That is correct. It's very fine print, but it is there.
Betcha they catch a lot of kids out.
Apparently if you call their helpline and complain in writing, stating
that the victim was a child, they will refund all moneys immediately
in order to avoid a precedent-setting legal case against them.
They are operating on a fine line and don't mind refunding some
moneys to keep going...
-Andrew M
Uncle Bully
2006-05-04 13:37:19 UTC
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Post by Michael C
Anyway, just thought I'd let some people know. BTW, if anyone want to tell
me how stupid I am and how smart they are because they would never enter a
"competition" like this don't bother, I'm not interested. I never imagined
something that is advertised on the major networks would be so dodgy. I
also never imagined that it was possible for a company to charge me for
sending an SMS to me. If anyone's wondering how they can do that
apparently it's in the fine print on the tele and when you first send them
a message you are agreeing to subscribe to a paid service.
Yes, an interesting business tactic. Flash up what amounts to a legal
contract on TV aimed at children designed purely to suck them into paying
for way more than they bargained for. I can't beleive it's a legal business
practice.
In any case it's highly unethical and TV and Music industries need a big
kick up the arse for allowing it.
Michael C
2006-05-04 13:44:55 UTC
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"Uncle Bully" <***@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote in message
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Post by Uncle Bully
Yes, an interesting business tactic. Flash up what amounts to a legal
contract on TV aimed at children designed purely to suck them into paying
for way more than they bargained for. I can't beleive it's a legal
business practice.
In any case it's highly unethical and TV and Music industries need a big
kick up the arse for allowing it.
That's the other thing I was going to mention, it seems to be highly
associated with big brother and australian idol. I'm not 100% certain about
BB but the message today definately mentioned aus idol.

Michael
Mr.T
2006-05-05 08:28:44 UTC
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Post by Uncle Bully
Yes, an interesting business tactic. Flash up what amounts to a legal
contract on TV aimed at children designed purely to suck them into paying
for way more than they bargained for. I can't beleive it's a legal business
practice.
In any case it's highly unethical and TV and Music industries need a big
kick up the arse for allowing it.
AND the Government for refusing to outlaw the practice!
I certainly wouldn't fall for it, but I can sure see how kids could be
easily suckered in.
What a great business model! I'd put them all up against a wall with a
blindfold :-)

MrT.
Michael A. Terrell
2006-05-05 11:28:59 UTC
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Post by Uncle Bully
Post by Uncle Bully
Yes, an interesting business tactic. Flash up what amounts to a legal
contract on TV aimed at children designed purely to suck them into paying
for way more than they bargained for. I can't beleive it's a legal
business
Post by Uncle Bully
practice.
In any case it's highly unethical and TV and Music industries need a big
kick up the arse for allowing it.
AND the Government for refusing to outlaw the practice!
I certainly wouldn't fall for it, but I can sure see how kids could be
easily suckered in.
What a great business model! I'd put them all up against a wall with a
blindfold :-)
MrT.
Why waste the blindfolds? Let them know what's about to happen. ;-)
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prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
quietguy
2006-05-05 01:16:56 UTC
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The warning sign is that the questions are ridiculously easy to answer - no way
any prizes are going to given for answering such simple questions

David - who wonders how many people fall for the 'free ring tone' ads, which in
small print that you dont have time to read results in you subscribing to $20
or $30 of ring tones a week
Post by Michael C
I wouldn't normally send SMSs into competitions but I saw one on the box the
other day
Michael C
2006-05-05 01:21:00 UTC
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Post by quietguy
The warning sign is that the questions are ridiculously easy to answer - no way
any prizes are going to given for answering such simple questions
That's not a warning sign at all. Lots of competitions have rediculously
easy questions to answer. They don't claim you win by getting the q right,
just that you get entered in the draw.

Michaek
Jasen Betts
2006-05-06 02:40:19 UTC
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Post by Michael C
Post by quietguy
The warning sign is that the questions are ridiculously easy to answer - no way
any prizes are going to given for answering such simple questions
That's not a warning sign at all. Lots of competitions have rediculously
easy questions to answer. They don't claim you win by getting the q right,
just that you get entered in the draw.
the ridiculously easy questions are often for legal requirrements.

if no question is asked it's a lottery but if there's a question
there's an demonstration of skill required and it's a competition....


Bye.
Jasen
t***@rageaudio.com.au
2006-05-09 23:35:48 UTC
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People who send SMS's to enter competitions, or vote for TV shows are
morons. They do not deserve one millisecond of compassion.

Trevor Wilson
Richard Kelly
2006-05-10 02:54:26 UTC
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Post by t***@rageaudio.com.au
People who send SMS's to enter competitions, or vote for TV shows are
morons. They do not deserve one millisecond of compassion.
Certainly, but the company doesn't deserve to make 1 cent off this crap
either... it should be outlawed.
t***@rageaudio.com.au
2006-05-10 04:54:29 UTC
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Post by Richard Kelly
Post by t***@rageaudio.com.au
People who send SMS's to enter competitions, or vote for TV shows are
morons. They do not deserve one millisecond of compassion.
Certainly, but the company doesn't deserve to make 1 cent off this crap
either... it should be outlawed.
There's no difference. Anyone over the age of ten years know that
sending an SMS to a contest, TV station, ring tone, nude photo service,
etc, will cost money. All we are arguing about is how much money. If a
company does not allow some kind of free access (web, freemail, etc)
then none of us should bother. Eventually, the morons will wake up and
discover what an incredible rort SMS messaging actually is.

'Till then, the morons get what they deserve.

Trevor Wilson (shakes head, desparing of how many idiots live in this
nation)

PS: It makes one wonder about these polls which various TV staions
regularly conduct. AFAICT, the results just indicate the stupidity of
one side, vs. the other side. IOW: Do all the dumb people vote, whilst
those of us with a moderate degree of intelligence simply refuse to
fill the coffers of large media organisations? Thus, are we actually
too intelligent to be heard?
Richard Kelly
2006-05-10 05:59:00 UTC
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Post by t***@rageaudio.com.au
Post by Richard Kelly
Post by t***@rageaudio.com.au
People who send SMS's to enter competitions, or vote for TV shows are
morons. They do not deserve one millisecond of compassion.
Certainly, but the company doesn't deserve to make 1 cent off this crap
either... it should be outlawed.
There's no difference. Anyone over the age of ten years know that
sending an SMS to a contest, TV station, ring tone, nude photo service,
etc, will cost money. All we are arguing about is how much money. If a
company does not allow some kind of free access (web, freemail, etc)
then none of us should bother. Eventually, the morons will wake up and
discover what an incredible rort SMS messaging actually is.
'Till then, the morons get what they deserve.
Shouldn't the government help said morons by protecting them from these
scams in the first place? There are plenty of people and companies willing
to take a moron's money - maybe we should make them work a bit harder for
it?
Post by t***@rageaudio.com.au
Trevor Wilson (shakes head, desparing of how many idiots live in this
nation)
I would say they out number us... which is scary.
Post by t***@rageaudio.com.au
PS: It makes one wonder about these polls which various TV staions
regularly conduct. AFAICT, the results just indicate the stupidity of
one side, vs. the other side. IOW: Do all the dumb people vote, whilst
those of us with a moderate degree of intelligence simply refuse to
fill the coffers of large media organisations? Thus, are we actually
too intelligent to be heard?
Agreed.
Noddy
2006-05-10 06:47:00 UTC
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Post by Richard Kelly
Shouldn't the government help said morons by protecting them from these
scams in the first place? There are plenty of people and companies willing
to take a moron's money - maybe we should make them work a bit harder for
it?
Personal responsibility is a concept that is lost on a great many people.

--
Regards,
Noddy.
Richard Waters
2006-05-10 07:38:35 UTC
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Post by Noddy
Post by Richard Kelly
Shouldn't the government help said morons by protecting them from these
scams in the first place? There are plenty of people and companies willing
to take a moron's money - maybe we should make them work a bit harder for
it?
Personal responsibility is a concept that is lost on a great many people.
--
Regards,
Noddy.
AMEN to that Noddy! Why is it that the rest of us that put effort into
our lives have the spend the rest of our time dragging up the weakest
links just because the P.C. wingers want us too...

...wouldnt it be better that the weakest links in the chain were made to
strap in and pull themselves up to the rest of our level and make
something of themselves - that way civilisation moves forward and doesnt
stand still like it is now!

:-D -- Richard W
Noddy
2006-05-10 09:02:42 UTC
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Post by Richard Waters
...wouldnt it be better that the weakest links in the chain were made to
strap in and pull themselves up to the rest of our level and make
something of themselves - that way civilisation moves forward and doesnt
stand still like it is now!
Indeed.

Either that, or we just shoot them :)

--
Regards,
Noddy.
dechucka
2006-05-11 05:00:59 UTC
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Post by Noddy
Post by Richard Kelly
Shouldn't the government help said morons by protecting them from these
scams in the first place? There are plenty of people and companies
willing to take a moron's money - maybe we should make them work a bit
harder for it?
Personal responsibility is a concept that is lost on a great many people.
yeah but I would still rescue you if you were drowning or let you buddy
breath

Michael C
2006-05-10 10:07:18 UTC
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Post by Richard Kelly
Shouldn't the government help said morons by protecting them from these
scams in the first place? There are plenty of people and companies willing
to take a moron's money - maybe we should make them work a bit harder for
it?
I agree. Any scam that is invented will attract someone and all too often we
blame that person for falling for the scam. Quite often (but not always)
they fall for the scam for being too honest and not understand the depth of
dishonesty other's will go to.
Post by Richard Kelly
I would say they out number us... which is scary.
Us? As in us superior people?
Post by Richard Kelly
Post by t***@rageaudio.com.au
PS: It makes one wonder about these polls which various TV staions
regularly conduct. AFAICT, the results just indicate the stupidity of
one side, vs. the other side. IOW: Do all the dumb people vote, whilst
those of us with a moderate degree of intelligence simply refuse to
fill the coffers of large media organisations? Thus, are we actually
too intelligent to be heard?
Agreed.
You and trevor should stop looking down at the rest of the world :-)

Michael
Richard Kelly
2006-05-10 21:36:44 UTC
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Post by Michael C
Post by Richard Kelly
Shouldn't the government help said morons by protecting them from these
scams in the first place? There are plenty of people and companies
willing to take a moron's money - maybe we should make them work a bit
harder for it?
I agree. Any scam that is invented will attract someone and all too often
we blame that person for falling for the scam. Quite often (but not
always) they fall for the scam for being too honest and not understand the
depth of dishonesty other's will go to.
Post by Richard Kelly
I would say they out number us... which is scary.
Us? As in us superior people?
As in people who aren't idiots.
Post by Michael C
Post by Richard Kelly
Post by t***@rageaudio.com.au
PS: It makes one wonder about these polls which various TV staions
regularly conduct. AFAICT, the results just indicate the stupidity of
one side, vs. the other side. IOW: Do all the dumb people vote, whilst
those of us with a moderate degree of intelligence simply refuse to
fill the coffers of large media organisations? Thus, are we actually
too intelligent to be heard?
Agreed.
You and trevor should stop looking down at the rest of the world :-)
Not the rest of the world, just the idiots and morons.
Peter
2006-05-10 06:00:04 UTC
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Post by t***@rageaudio.com.au
Post by Richard Kelly
Post by t***@rageaudio.com.au
People who send SMS's to enter competitions, or vote for TV shows are
morons. They do not deserve one millisecond of compassion.
Certainly, but the company doesn't deserve to make 1 cent off this crap
either... it should be outlawed.
There's no difference. Anyone over the age of ten years know that
sending an SMS to a contest, TV station, ring tone, nude photo service,
etc, will cost money. All we are arguing about is how much money. If a
company does not allow some kind of free access (web, freemail, etc)
then none of us should bother. Eventually, the morons will wake up and
discover what an incredible rort SMS messaging actually is.
'Till then, the morons get what they deserve.
Trevor Wilson (shakes head, desparing of how many idiots live in this
nation)
PS: It makes one wonder about these polls which various TV staions
regularly conduct. AFAICT, the results just indicate the stupidity of
one side, vs. the other side. IOW: Do all the dumb people vote, whilst
those of us with a moderate degree of intelligence simply refuse to
fill the coffers of large media organisations? Thus, are we actually
too intelligent to be heard?
Too "intelligent" to have a voice and not use it? I would probably use a
word based on intellect as this is something that we are taught.
You don't have to rely on "large media organisations" to speak up or get
your message across though it helps if you have something to say.
:-P
Michael C
2006-05-10 06:16:30 UTC
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Post by t***@rageaudio.com.au
There's no difference. Anyone over the age of ten years know that
sending an SMS to a contest, TV station, ring tone, nude photo service,
etc, will cost money. All we are arguing about is how much money. If a
company does not allow some kind of free access (web, freemail, etc)
then none of us should bother. Eventually, the morons will wake up and
discover what an incredible rort SMS messaging actually is.
I suspect you're one of those people who needs to find other's stupid in
order to feel better about yourself.
Post by t***@rageaudio.com.au
'Till then, the morons get what they deserve.
I deserve to be parted with my $2 I agree. I do not deserve to be charged $4
every week for the rest of my life for sending one sms. Who's going to
expect to be charge $2 for receiving calls.
Post by t***@rageaudio.com.au
Trevor Wilson (shakes head, desparing of how many idiots live in this
nation)
Are you telling me you've never done anything stupid in your life? I admit I
was stupid to send the SMS but on the scale of stupid things that a person
could do this is right down at the low end. I've actually sent a couple
before to reputable companies from a competition on an icecream pack. It was
55c to enter but seeing I was on a cap it's not costing me anything so why
not. I sent them an sms, got charged my 55c and they sent a reply back
saying I didn't win and that was the end of it. I don't see how that's
stupid, considering it didn't cost me anything it's actually a smart thing
to do :-)
Post by t***@rageaudio.com.au
PS: It makes one wonder about these polls which various TV staions
regularly conduct. AFAICT, the results just indicate the stupidity of
one side, vs. the other side. IOW: Do all the dumb people vote, whilst
those of us with a moderate degree of intelligence simply refuse to
fill the coffers of large media organisations? Thus, are we actually
too intelligent to be heard?
You should chill out a bit.

Michael
Noddy
2006-05-10 06:49:38 UTC
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Post by Michael C
I deserve to be parted with my $2 I agree. I do not deserve to be charged
$4 every week for the rest of my life for sending one sms. Who's going to
expect to be charge $2 for receiving calls.
Actually, you do.

The terms & conditions are spelled out in the adds, albeit very breifly, and
by sending your message you're agreeing to be bound by them.

--
Regards,
Noddy.
Michael C
2006-05-10 10:00:02 UTC
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Post by Noddy
Actually, you do.
The terms & conditions are spelled out in the adds, albeit very breifly,
and by sending your message you're agreeing to be bound by them.
There was no way in the world I could have read those from across the room
on my tiny tele. They were deliberately small and not shown long enough to
read. If tested under law I'm sure I'd be in the right.

Michael
Noddy
2006-05-10 11:56:35 UTC
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Post by Michael C
There was no way in the world I could have read those from across the room
on my tiny tele. They were deliberately small and not shown long enough to
read. If tested under law I'm sure I'd be in the right.
I wouldn't bet big money on that.

There's minimum standards for this type of crap, and there wouldn't be too
many TV networks that would knowingly let that shit get by if it wasn't
kosher. What they generally show you is the *minimum* they have to in order
to comply with the regulations, and if you can't understand the terms &
conditions for whatever reason it's your problem.

I agree that the terms are ridiculously small and not shown for long enough
to read entirely, but if that's all they're legally entitled to do you're up
shit creek. Claiming that "the writing was too small to read from across the
room" would not be an acceptable defence in my humble opinion.

--
Regards,
Noddy.
t***@rageaudio.com.au
2006-05-10 09:53:19 UTC
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Post by Michael C
Post by t***@rageaudio.com.au
There's no difference. Anyone over the age of ten years know that
sending an SMS to a contest, TV station, ring tone, nude photo service,
etc, will cost money. All we are arguing about is how much money. If a
company does not allow some kind of free access (web, freemail, etc)
then none of us should bother. Eventually, the morons will wake up and
discover what an incredible rort SMS messaging actually is.
I suspect you're one of those people who needs to find other's stupid in
order to feel better about yourself.
**That woiuld be 'projection'. Even in the wishy-washy terms you've
used. I am simply staggered by the number of people who have been
conned by the 'phone companies into using SMS. SMS is dirt cheap (for
the 'phone companies). Whilst they cost the consumer $0.20 (or
thereabouts), the cost to the 'phone companies, in network time is so
little that the real cost would probably not be able to be accurately
guaged. Figure on about ONE MILLIONTH of one Cent per SMS and you're
probably not far off. SMS is a con-job, aimed at children. It has
worked brilliantly. Adults, OTOH, should know better. Email is
essentially free.
Post by Michael C
Post by t***@rageaudio.com.au
'Till then, the morons get what they deserve.
I deserve to be parted with my $2 I agree. I do not deserve to be charged $4
every week for the rest of my life for sending one sms. Who's going to
expect to be charge $2 for receiving calls.
**Anyone who uses SMS without reading the fine print.
Post by Michael C
Post by t***@rageaudio.com.au
Trevor Wilson (shakes head, desparing of how many idiots live in this
nation)
Are you telling me you've never done anything stupid in your life?
**I've done plenty of dumb things. SMS ain't one of them. I used it
ONCE. I now ignore any SMS messages and wiat for the idots to actually
'phone me (or email). I refuse, point blank, to use SMS to enter any
knid of contest, as it is clear that the cost of SMS pays for the
prizes (and then some). It is a huge con.

I admit I
Post by Michael C
was stupid to send the SMS but on the scale of stupid things that a person
could do this is right down at the low end. I've actually sent a couple
before to reputable companies from a competition on an icecream pack. It was
55c to enter but seeing I was on a cap it's not costing me anything so why
not. I sent them an sms, got charged my 55c and they sent a reply back
saying I didn't win and that was the end of it. I don't see how that's
stupid, considering it didn't cost me anything it's actually a smart thing
to do :-)
Post by t***@rageaudio.com.au
PS: It makes one wonder about these polls which various TV staions
regularly conduct. AFAICT, the results just indicate the stupidity of
one side, vs. the other side. IOW: Do all the dumb people vote, whilst
those of us with a moderate degree of intelligence simply refuse to
fill the coffers of large media organisations? Thus, are we actually
too intelligent to be heard?
You should chill out a bit.
**No. We are presently seeing a huge re-direction of resources away
from real things, to stupid SMS messages, from children and the
feeble-minded. I object to that. Our society could well do without such
ridiculous and unnnecessary waste.

Trevor Wilson
Michael C
2006-05-10 11:29:40 UTC
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Post by t***@rageaudio.com.au
**That woiuld be 'projection'. Even in the wishy-washy terms you've
used.
you crack me up.
Post by t***@rageaudio.com.au
I am simply staggered by the number of people who have been
conned by the 'phone companies into using SMS. SMS is dirt cheap (for
the 'phone companies). Whilst they cost the consumer $0.20 (or
thereabouts), the cost to the 'phone companies, in network time is so
little that the real cost would probably not be able to be accurately
guaged. Figure on about ONE MILLIONTH of one Cent per SMS and you're
probably not far off. SMS is a con-job, aimed at children. It has
worked brilliantly. Adults, OTOH, should know better. Email is
essentially free.
You should know what something costs has little to do with what it sells
for. For me an sms is worth the 11cents.
Post by t***@rageaudio.com.au
**I've done plenty of dumb things. SMS ain't one of them. I used it
ONCE. I now ignore any SMS messages and wiat for the idots to actually
'phone me (or email).
Presumably they'd rather avoid talking to you.
Post by t***@rageaudio.com.au
I refuse, point blank, to use SMS to enter any
knid of contest, as it is clear that the cost of SMS pays for the
prizes (and then some). It is a huge con.
Why? It's part of my cap so essentially free. It makes perfect sense.
Post by t***@rageaudio.com.au
**No. We are presently seeing a huge re-direction of resources away
from real things, to stupid SMS messages, from children and the
feeble-minded. I object to that. Our society could well do without such
ridiculous and unnnecessary waste.
Hardly. We've become so efficient that if everyone in this country was
actually involved in producing goods we'd be in real trouble. We need lawers
and tax agents to save the environment.

Michael
Noddy
2006-05-10 05:59:50 UTC
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Post by Richard Kelly
Certainly, but the company doesn't deserve to make 1 cent off this crap
either... it should be outlawed.
Why do you think they do it? Hint: They're in business.

If you're too keen to partake before you read the fine print, that's you're
problem.

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Regards,
Noddy.
Michael C
2006-05-10 10:09:46 UTC
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Post by Noddy
Why do you think they do it? Hint: They're in business.
If you're too keen to partake before you read the fine print, that's
you're problem.
Do read the fine print before spending every $2? I bet you've made some
fairly big decisions in life without reading all the fine print. Does anyone
read the fine print for their home insurance or life insurance.

Michael
Noddy
2006-05-10 12:06:10 UTC
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Post by Michael C
Do read the fine print before spending every $2?
Of course not, but then again not every $2 I spend is "at risk".
Post by Michael C
I bet you've made some fairly big decisions in life without reading all
the fine print.
Can't say that I have.

Whenever I've commited myself to anything I've always gone out of my way to
fully understand what it is that I'm getting myself into. Particularly where
money is involved.
Post by Michael C
Does anyone read the fine print for their home insurance or life
insurance.
Only an idiot wouldn't :)

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Regards,
Noddy.
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