digital camera for underwater?

[Mario]

Hello,

Are there any digital cameras for underwater photography ? how many
meters or feet they can reach? they have connection for external
stronger flash ? what is the lense aperture?

Please tell me what are good models of digital cameras for underwater
photography with and without underwater casing I mean no need of extra
housing for underwater are there any? how deep they can go ?

what about with housing digital cameras? which ones are considered
best?

thanks,

Mario

[Rudy Benner]

Yes.

Post by Mario
Hello,
Are there any digital cameras for underwater photography ? how many
meters or feet they can reach? they have connection for external
stronger flash ? what is the lense aperture?
Please tell me what are good models of digital cameras for underwater
photography with and without underwater casing I mean no need of extra
housing for underwater are there any? how deep they can go ?
what about with housing digital cameras? which ones are considered
best?
thanks,
Mario

[Willem]

Bullseye Rudy
Hahahahaaaaa

Yes.

Post by Mario
Hello,
Are there any digital cameras for underwater photography ? how many
meters or feet they can reach? they have connection for external
stronger flash ? what is the lense aperture?
Please tell me what are good models of digital cameras for underwater
photography with and without underwater casing I mean no need of extra
housing for underwater are there any? how deep they can go ?
what about with housing digital cameras? which ones are considered
best?
thanks,
Mario

[Jörg Kühnel]

Post by Mario
Hello,
Are there any digital cameras for underwater photography ?

[snip]

Try www.digitaldiver.info

Take care,

Jörg

Post by Mario
Mario8

[Laser]

Post by Mario
Hello,
Are there any digital cameras for underwater photography ? how many
meters or feet they can reach? they have connection for external
stronger flash ? what is the lense aperture?
Please tell me what are good models of digital cameras for underwater
photography with and without underwater casing I mean no need of extra
housing for underwater are there any? how deep they can go ?
what about with housing digital cameras? which ones are considered
best?
thanks,
Mario

How much do you want to spend is the question?

Laser

[Dave]

Post by Mario
Hello,
Are there any digital cameras for underwater photography ? how many
meters or feet they can reach? they have connection for external
stronger flash ? what is the lense aperture?

A housed camera is probably the best solution in terms of versatility and
bang for the buck. So, first pick out a small handful of digicams that you
like, and then start investigating whether or not they can be used in UW
housings.

Dave

[andy w]

One or two places seem to be doing the housing for the Olympus Mju cameras
(300 and 400) for about £60 - so you could probably get a 3mp camera and
housing for £300 or so.

Post by Dave

Post by Mario
Hello,
Are there any digital cameras for underwater photography ? how many
meters or feet they can reach? they have connection for external
stronger flash ? what is the lense aperture?

A housed camera is probably the best solution in terms of versatility and
bang for the buck. So, first pick out a small handful of digicams that you
like, and then start investigating whether or not they can be used in UW
housings.
Dave

[nickjb]

Post by andy w
One or two places seem to be doing the housing for the Olympus Mju cameras
(300 and 400) for about £60 - so you could probably get a 3mp camera and
housing for £300 or so.

Where was this?

Cheapest I have seen it is £95.

I'm pretty tempted with this set up.

Cheers
Nick

[Eric]

Post by nickjb

Post by andy w
One or two places seem to be doing the housing for the Olympus Mju cameras
(300 and 400) for about £60 - so you could probably get a 3mp camera and
housing for £300 or so.

Where was this?
Cheapest I have seen it is £95.
I'm pretty tempted with this set up.

I just got a 400 and a housing from Adorama.com. There are a number of
places that carry it - I just did a google search on the part number of the
housing (PT016), and got all kinds of hits from all over the world. My
local dive shop was carring it as well - they were offering the combination
of the 300 + housing for about 600$, but I did a lot better going online.

Will be testing it in a pool on Wed, and trying it out in the ocean in a
week or so. FWIW, there is a rebate if you purchase by something like the
17th.

As you might expect, there are lots of adjustments you can make on a
digital camera. I found a website from Canon in Japan (site is in English),
that has some interesting suggestions that are specifically related to
underwater digital photography:
http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/uwphoto/page/01-e.html.

-Eric

[Mark Johnson]

Post by Mario
Hello,
Are there any digital cameras for underwater photography ? how many
meters or feet they can reach? they have connection for external
stronger flash ? what is the lense aperture?
Please tell me what are good models of digital cameras for underwater
photography with and without underwater casing I mean no need of extra
housing for underwater are there any? how deep they can go ?
what about with housing digital cameras? which ones are considered
best?

It's not so much the camera as the housing, and the external lenses
for the housing.

The Oly C4040 and C5050 are pretty well supported. But you can find
Tetra and Ikelite cases for a lot of cameras. Add on flash units and
such, and you could be looking at $1500, maybe, not including the
price of whatever camera.

It's expensive.

[Laser]

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 15:25:14 -0800, Mark Johnson

Post by Mark Johnson

Post by Mario
Hello,
Are there any digital cameras for underwater photography ? how many
meters or feet they can reach? they have connection for external
stronger flash ? what is the lense aperture?
Please tell me what are good models of digital cameras for underwater
photography with and without underwater casing I mean no need of extra
housing for underwater are there any? how deep they can go ?
what about with housing digital cameras? which ones are considered
best?

It's not so much the camera as the housing, and the external lenses
for the housing.
The Oly C4040 and C5050 are pretty well supported. But you can find
Tetra and Ikelite cases for a lot of cameras. Add on flash units and
such, and you could be looking at $1500, maybe, not including the
price of whatever camera.
It's expensive.

I have the C5050 and the Oly PT housing for it. Good to 150'. Takes
great shots so far, but it is expensive.

Laser

[Dave]

Post by Laser
On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 15:25:14 -0800, Mark Johnson
I have the C5050 and the Oly PT housing for it. Good to 150'. Takes
great shots so far, but it is expensive.

I just got the same housing and we're headed to Cozumel in February. Any
advice on using the camera underwater? What settings do you use? Anything
special with the housing? Did you pop for an external strobe?

TIA,

Dave

[Laser]

Post by Dave

Post by Laser
On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 15:25:14 -0800, Mark Johnson
I have the C5050 and the Oly PT housing for it. Good to 150'. Takes
great shots so far, but it is expensive.

I just got the same housing and we're headed to Cozumel in February. Any
advice on using the camera underwater? What settings do you use? Anything
special with the housing? Did you pop for an external strobe?

I didn't get the external strobe, and I really haven't played with the
setting too much. Adjusted thewhite balance but other than that I
pretty much have just used it on the setting on the dial.

Laser

[Dave]

Post by Laser

Post by Dave

Post by Laser
On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 15:25:14 -0800, Mark Johnson
I have the C5050 and the Oly PT housing for it. Good to 150'. Takes
great shots so far, but it is expensive.

I just got the same housing and we're headed to Cozumel in February. Any
advice on using the camera underwater? What settings do you use? Anything
special with the housing? Did you pop for an external strobe?

I didn't get the external strobe, and I really haven't played with the
setting too much. Adjusted thewhite balance but other than that I
pretty much have just used it on the setting on the dial.

Thanks. I hadn't thought about that, but I guess the auto WB isn't set up to
handle UW shots. Did you set the WB by going into the One Touch WB screen?
Or do you have a preset for UW photography?

Can't wait to get this baby in the water!

Dave

[Eric]

Post by Mark Johnson
The Oly C4040 and C5050 are pretty well supported. But you can find
Tetra and Ikelite cases for a lot of cameras. Add on flash units and
such, and you could be looking at $1500, maybe, not including the
price of whatever camera.

The newer Oly Stylus 300 and 400 models are also well supported - I just
got one myself along with the Oly housing.

Post by Mark Johnson
It's expensive.

No kidding.

-Eric

[Steve Wilbur]

Post by Mario
Are there any digital cameras for underwater photography ? how many
meters or feet they can reach? they have connection for external
stronger flash ? what is the lense aperture?
Please tell me what are good models of digital cameras for underwater
photography with and without underwater casing I mean no need of extra
housing for underwater are there any? how deep they can go ?

I had a Canon Powershot G2 digital camera which I wanted to use for
underwater. in November, I got an Ikelite housing, DS100/sensor strobe
package, and fast-charger for the strobe for about $1400 with shipping.
I've put about 50 dives on it so far and have been very happy with it. It
was expensive, but now that I have it, the cost-per-use will eventually
make it seem not so outrageous. (:

[mark]

We just got a Sea&Sea DX3000G, which is rated to 165 Ft, and used it on
several dives in the Keys recently.

Without the external strobe and on sale it ran about $650. Not cheap but a
great package.

my .02 worth.
--
mark
Outside a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
Inside a dog it is too dark to read - Groucho Marx
xes out for mail

Post by Mark Johnson

Post by Mario
Hello,
Are there any digital cameras for underwater photography ? how many
meters or feet they can reach? they have connection for external
stronger flash ? what is the lense aperture?
Please tell me what are good models of digital cameras for underwater
photography with and without underwater casing I mean no need of extra
housing for underwater are there any? how deep they can go ?
what about with housing digital cameras? which ones are considered
best?

It's not so much the camera as the housing, and the external lenses
for the housing.
The Oly C4040 and C5050 are pretty well supported. But you can find
Tetra and Ikelite cases for a lot of cameras. Add on flash units and
such, and you could be looking at $1500, maybe, not including the
price of whatever camera.
It's expensive.

[Nylon Lover]

Mark, got any of your Keys Pics On-Line? If so Where? Like to see
them.

Post by mark
We just got a Sea&Sea DX3000G, which is rated to 165 Ft, and used it on
several dives in the Keys recently.
Without the external strobe and on sale it ran about $650. Not cheap but a
great package.
my .02 worth.

[mark]

Not right now but I can post some up if you are really interested.
--
mark
Outside a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
Inside a dog it is too dark to read - Groucho Marx
xes out for mail

Post by Nylon Lover
Mark, got any of your Keys Pics On-Line? If so Where? Like to see
them.

Post by mark
We just got a Sea&Sea DX3000G, which is rated to 165 Ft, and used it on
several dives in the Keys recently.
Without the external strobe and on sale it ran about $650. Not cheap but a
great package.
my .02 worth.

[Mark B.]

Post by Mario
Hello,
Are there any digital cameras for underwater photography ? how many
meters or feet they can reach? they have connection for external
stronger flash ? what is the lense aperture?
Please tell me what are good models of digital cameras for underwater
photography with and without underwater casing I mean no need of extra
housing for underwater are there any? how deep they can go ?
what about with housing digital cameras? which ones are considered
best?
thanks,
Mario

I just got a housing for my wife's A70, we'll be using it for a trip to
Discovery Cove in Sea World. Every button and switch can be accessed with
the housing, and it even has a built-in flash diffuser which I think will
come in very handy. The A70 is a teriffic little digicam, I'm looking
forward to the trip.

Mark

[Dave]

check out this aussie site http://www.rapserv.com.au/category73_1.htm

Post by Mario
Hello,
Are there any digital cameras for underwater photography ? how many
meters or feet they can reach? they have connection for external
stronger flash ? what is the lense aperture?
Please tell me what are good models of digital cameras for underwater
photography with and without underwater casing I mean no need of extra
housing for underwater are there any? how deep they can go ?
what about with housing digital cameras? which ones are considered
best?
thanks,
Mario

[Dan Bracuk]

Post by Mario
Hello,
Are there any digital cameras for underwater photography ? how many
meters or feet they can reach? they have connection for external
stronger flash ? what is the lense aperture?
Please tell me what are good models of digital cameras for underwater
photography with and without underwater casing I mean no need of extra
housing for underwater are there any? how deep they can go ?

An comparatively inexpensive system is the Sealife Reefmaster. Here
are some pictures I took with mine last week (look for the ones marked
"new"): http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/underwater/index.htm

Most of the other pages indicate what camera was used to take the
photograph.

I have the 1.3 megapixel version of this camera. They now have a 3.2
megapixel version. One of the other divers on the boat last week was
using one, without a strobe. I was impressed with her results. Must
have a faster lens than mine, because I could not have achieved those
results without a strobe.

As far as how far an underwater camera can reach, it depends on your
depth, the amount of ambient light, the type of lens, and so on and so
forth.

[m***@mrdduck.com]

hi there suggest value for money ,,, check out canon s50 /s45 and then
the canon wpdc 300 water proof housing from canon , it is around 290 AU ,
sony cyber shot about 500 for housing is the next one ,

that is my choice and canon has served me well ,

mark www.mrdduck.com

Post by Mario
Hello,
Are there any digital cameras for underwater photography ? how many
meters or feet they can reach? they have connection for external
stronger flash ? what is the lense aperture?
Please tell me what are good models of digital cameras for underwater
photography with and without underwater casing I mean no need of extra
housing for underwater are there any? how deep they can go ?
what about with housing digital cameras? which ones are considered
best?
thanks,
Mario

[Tack]

I, too, use the Canon S45 and WDC 300 housing. As well as some add on lens's
and an external strobe ( INON D180). So far so good.
Example picture etc. on my web site
HTH
Tim
www.DivingTheBlue.com

Post by m***@mrdduck.com
hi there suggest value for money ,,, check out canon s50 /s45 and then
the canon wpdc 300 water proof housing from canon , it is around 290 AU ,
sony cyber shot about 500 for housing is the next one ,
that is my choice and canon has served me well ,
mark www.mrdduck.com

Post by Mario
Hello,
Are there any digital cameras for underwater photography ? how many
meters or feet they can reach? they have connection for external
stronger flash ? what is the lense aperture?
Please tell me what are good models of digital cameras for underwater
photography with and without underwater casing I mean no need of extra
housing for underwater are there any? how deep they can go ?
what about with housing digital cameras? which ones are considered
best?
thanks,
Mario

[rich]

Post by Mario
Are there any digital cameras for underwater photography ? how many
meters or feet they can reach? they have connection for external
stronger flash ? what is the lense aperture?

Would this be of interest? The Sea and Sea AQUAPIX..

http://www.seaandsea.com/AquaPix.html

rich

[mark]

I have this one and love it:

http://www.seaandsea.com/DX3000.html
--
mark
Outside a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
Inside a dog it is too dark to read - Groucho Marx
xes out for mail

Post by rich

Post by Mario
Are there any digital cameras for underwater photography ? how many
meters or feet they can reach? they have connection for external
stronger flash ? what is the lense aperture?

Would this be of interest? The Sea and Sea AQUAPIX..
http://www.seaandsea.com/AquaPix.html
rich

[Dan Bracuk, CTHD]

"mark" <***@xsuscom.net> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in:
:I have this one and love it:
:
:http://www.seaandsea.com/DX3000.html

In the most recent edition of Undercurrent's free monthly newsletter,
they mentioned that Sea & Sea were toast.

Dan Bracuk
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[mark]

Toast as in the company is going belly up?
or Toast as in the products aren't good?
--
mark
Outside a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
Inside a dog it is too dark to read - Groucho Marx
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Post by Dan Bracuk, CTHD
:http://www.seaandsea.com/DX3000.html
In the most recent edition of Undercurrent's free monthly newsletter,
they mentioned that Sea & Sea were toast.
Dan Bracuk
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[Dan Bracuk, CTHD]

"mark" <***@xsuscom.net> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in:
:Toast as in the company is going belly up?
:or Toast as in the products aren't good?

Toast as in the company is no longer in business.

Dan Bracuk
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[mark]

Probably sold too good a product at too low a price.
Sorry to hear they might be doing badly, glad I got a great price on a
camera that, to my inexpert skills, appears outstanding!
--
mark
Outside a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
Inside a dog it is too dark to read - Groucho Marx
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Post by Dan Bracuk, CTHD
:Toast as in the company is going belly up?
:or Toast as in the products aren't good?
Toast as in the company is no longer in business.
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[Jason O'Rourke]

Post by mark
Probably sold too good a product at too low a price.
Sorry to hear they might be doing badly, glad I got a great price on a
camera that, to my inexpert skills, appears outstanding!

S&S had too many models that didn't make sense from a cost perspective.
The MX-10 was too pricy for the limited improvement it offered over simple
cheap models like the Aquashot or the Reefmaster.

The MX-5 was priced the same as the Aquashot, but with no strobe option until
the attemped MX-5-II. It was a triumph of the marketing department over
engineering. Cute, but useless.

The MX-II line was priced too close to Nikonos, and was inferior. It was
also about the same price as a good digital setup, which has been the bulk of sales
for more casual UW photographers in recent years.

Last, the S&S digital option offered nothing special over the cameras + housings
from Canon or Olympus which had been around longer. With the rapid turnover of
new and better models from the camera makers, why go with a non make? It's just
someone's OEM.

[Matthew Endo]

Post by Dan Bracuk, CTHD
:Toast as in the company is going belly up?
:or Toast as in the products aren't good?
Toast as in the company is no longer in business.

Sea and Sea Japan is alive and well, I'll see Mr. Yamaguchi, the
present, today at the Diving Festival in Tokyo.

Sea and Sea USA which was in California, has closed down and Tabata USA
(TUSA) is now in charge of their after sales service.

Hope this sets the record straight,

[mark]

Thanks for the info.
What, if any, impact will this change have on the availability of lenses,
strobes, parts etc?
--
mark
Outside a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
Inside a dog it is too dark to read - Groucho Marx
xes out for mail

Post by Matthew Endo

Post by Dan Bracuk, CTHD
:Toast as in the company is going belly up?
:or Toast as in the products aren't good?
Toast as in the company is no longer in business.

Sea and Sea Japan is alive and well, I'll see Mr. Yamaguchi, the
present, today at the Diving Festival in Tokyo.
Sea and Sea USA which was in California, has closed down and Tabata USA
(TUSA) is now in charge of their after sales service.
Hope this sets the record straight,
--
Matt

[Matthew Endo]

Post by Matthew Endo
Sea and Sea Japan is alive and well, I'll see Mr. Yamaguchi, the
present, today at the Diving Festival in Tokyo.

Sorry, to correct my previous post, I meant President. But I didn't get
to see him, although I talked to one of my friends at the booth who is
now an employee.

Post by Matthew Endo
What, if any, impact will this change have on the availability of lenses,
strobes, parts etc?

This will just mean that your local USA dealer will be getting stuff
from Sea and Sea Japan instead, and warrantee repairs that can't be
serviced by your local S&S dealer will get sent to TUSA.

Your dealer should probably have this information.

[Reef Fish]

Post by Matthew Endo

Post by Matthew Endo
Sea and Sea Japan is alive and well, I'll see Mr. Yamaguchi, the
present, today at the Diving Festival in Tokyo.

Sorry, to correct my previous post, I meant President.

But Sea & Sea's UW camera is not alive nor well -- specifically, my
latest MX-10 (2002) which lasted all of ONE liveaboard dive trip,
within 60 days of the purchase, where MOISTURE (no water leak, mind
you) resulted in damage that required (according to the authorized
service
center in the USA) $270 USD to repair, which cost about the same or
more than buying a new one. It was obviously a MANUFACTURING defect.


I've used an MX-10 from 1992 to 2001 when the camera was stolen with
the rest of my luggage -- so it wasn't exactly a case of a newbie user
of the MX-10 not knowing how to grease the seal or take care of the
camera properly.


All this was carefully explained to the "technician" at the service
center, to no avail.


So, I told him to smash the camera with the biggest HAMMER he could
find, and not bother to mail me back that POS.

I don't know if he followed my instructions, but I did not get the
camera back.


I now have a nearly new (used one week, the same week of the MX-10)
strobe that I'll sell for $20 (or offer) postage paid by purchaser.


Matt, you know me.

Send a copy of this to Mr. Yamaguchi. Perhaps he SHOULD know how
his "technician" in the USA was handling his customers and his
manufacturing defects.

-- Bob.

[Matthew Endo]

Post by Reef Fish
Matt, you know me.
Send a copy of this to Mr. Yamaguchi. Perhaps he SHOULD know how
his "technician" in the USA was handling his customers and his
manufacturing defects.

Feesh, can you send me the complete details, and the story from the
beginning via e-mail.

Thanks,

[Reef Fish]

Post by Matthew Endo

Post by Reef Fish
Matt, you know me.
Send a copy of this to Mr. Yamaguchi. Perhaps he SHOULD know how
his "technician" in the USA was handling his customers and his
manufacturing defects.

Feesh, can you send me the complete details, and the story from the
beginning via e-mail.

Hi Matt,

Actually I have posted the complete "relevant" details. I don't have
access to my emailer now, now any of the actual records (such as the
dates, serial numbers, written notes by me as well as the Sea&Sea
technician, etc.) now, because I am "on the road" (since 2/13), but
I'll email you what's available on those detailed records, soon after
I return home next week.

Thsnks for taking interest in this.

-- Bob.

[Matthew Endo]

Post by Reef Fish
Actually I have posted the complete "relevant" details. I don't have
access to my emailer now, now any of the actual records (such as the
dates, serial numbers, written notes by me as well as the Sea&Sea
technician, etc.) now, because I am "on the road" (since 2/13), but
I'll email you what's available on those detailed records, soon after
I return home next week.

OK, I'll wait to get the e-mail from you. Maybe photocopies of the
relevant documents would assist in getting the matter resolved.

Post by Reef Fish
Thsnks for taking interest in this.

Glad to help out.

Cheers,

[Wayne Bjorken]

Mario;

I use a Nikon Coolpix 4300 with a Fantasea CP4 housing with attached Sea&Sea
20mm Wide conversion lens. In addition I light things up with an Epoque ES
150 DS.
The system works well and if bought from the right sources can cost less
then $1000.

Wayne Bjorken
www.springdivers.com

Post by Mario
Hello,
Are there any digital cameras for underwater photography ? how many
meters or feet they can reach? they have connection for external
stronger flash ? what is the lense aperture?
Please tell me what are good models of digital cameras for underwater
photography with and without underwater casing I mean no need of extra
housing for underwater are there any? how deep they can go ?
what about with housing digital cameras? which ones are considered
best?
thanks,
Mario

[Pat]

I use the "shield" with a Kodak CX4300 (Walmart $99) with the
fill-flash always on. I have taken 1000s of what I feel are
incredible pics for a total $150 setup...your choice! Here is one of
my sites to check some samples:
http://spectregunner.freeservers.com/

PS: Sorry about the pop-ups in advance---it is a free storage site!

On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 13:44:19 GMT, "Wayne Bjorken"

Post by Wayne Bjorken
Mario;
I use a Nikon Coolpix 4300 with a Fantasea CP4 housing with attached Sea&Sea
20mm Wide conversion lens. In addition I light things up with an Epoque ES
150 DS.
The system works well and if bought from the right sources can cost less
then $1000.
Wayne Bjorken
www.springdivers.com

Post by Mario
Hello,
Are there any digital cameras for underwater photography ? how many
meters or feet they can reach? they have connection for external
stronger flash ? what is the lense aperture?
Please tell me what are good models of digital cameras for underwater
photography with and without underwater casing I mean no need of extra
housing for underwater are there any? how deep they can go ?
what about with housing digital cameras? which ones are considered
best?
thanks,
Mario

[Dan Bracuk, CTHD]

Pat <***@tampabay.rr.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
in:
:I use the "shield" with a Kodak CX4300 (Walmart $99) with the
:fill-flash always on. I have taken 1000s of what I feel are
:incredible pics for a total $150 setup...your choice! Here is one of
:my sites to check some samples:

This one ain't so hot.
Loading Image...

at least not to me.

Dan Bracuk
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[Pat]

I know..I uploaded a bad one in error. THe rest look acceptable to me
and were LOTS of fun taking though...enjoy!

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 18:40:47 -0500, "Dan Bracuk, CTHD"

Post by Dan Bracuk, CTHD
:I use the "shield" with a Kodak CX4300 (Walmart $99) with the
:fill-flash always on. I have taken 1000s of what I feel are
:incredible pics for a total $150 setup...your choice! Here is one of
This one ain't so hot.
http://spectregunner.freeservers.com/cgi-bin/i/images/Small_Key_Largo_7_03/100_1502.jpg
at least not to me.
Dan Bracuk
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Post by Pat
I know..I uploaded a bad one in error. THe rest look acceptable to me
and were LOTS of fun taking though...enjoy!

What they show is that in good conditions (none to few particles in the
water) you get acceptable results, [and have fun] and that is good.

They also show that
{images/Small_Key_Largo_7_03/100_1477.jpg}{mages/Small_Key_Largo_7_03/10
0_1490.jpg} it is not a good setup in less than ideal conditions.

[Jason O'Rourke]

Post by Jerome Meekings
What they show is that in good conditions (none to few particles in the
water) you get acceptable results, [and have fun] and that is good.

This is true of any setup that relies on the camera's internal flash.

[Pat]

You all have to admit...not too shabby for less than $150 total
investment! That is the issue. It is also important to note that
with this setup you can have fun on the dive and not dive simply for
the photo. Just my 2 cents.

Post by Jason O'Rourke

Post by Jerome Meekings
What they show is that in good conditions (none to few particles in the
water) you get acceptable results, [and have fun] and that is good.

This is true of any setup that relies on the camera's internal flash.

[Dan Bracuk, CTHD]

Pat <***@tampabay.rr.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
in:
: It is also important to note that
:with this setup you can have fun on the dive and not dive simply for
:the photo. Just my 2 cents.

You can do that with any camera.

Dan Bracuk
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[Pat]

Ok, how about not crying if you loose it! Can't say that about most
outfits.

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 18:25:55 -0500, "Dan Bracuk, CTHD"

Post by Dan Bracuk, CTHD
: It is also important to note that
:with this setup you can have fun on the dive and not dive simply for
:the photo. Just my 2 cents.
You can do that with any camera.
Dan Bracuk
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[Dan Bracuk, CTHD]

Pat <***@tampabay.rr.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
in:
:Ok, how about not crying if you loose it! Can't say that about most
:outfits.

Depends on whether you lose it before or after photographing the whale
shark being chased off by a damselfish.

Dan Bracuk
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[Dan Bracuk, CTHD]

Pat <***@tampabay.rr.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
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:PS: Sorry about the pop-ups in advance---it is a free storage site!

Norton Internet Security takes care of those pop ups quite nicely.

Dan Bracuk
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Post by Dan Bracuk, CTHD
:PS: Sorry about the pop-ups in advance---it is a free storage site!
Norton Internet Security takes care of those pop ups quite nicely.

Too bad it's a virus of its own.

Mozilla does much better.

[LCM]

Those pics look great! Please explain the "shield".
Thanks,
Larry

Post by Pat
I use the "shield" with a Kodak CX4300 (Walmart $99) with the
fill-flash always on. I have taken 1000s of what I feel are
incredible pics for a total $150 setup...your choice! Here is one of
http://spectregunner.freeservers.com/
PS: Sorry about the pop-ups in advance---it is a free storage site!
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 13:44:19 GMT, "Wayne Bjorken"

Post by Wayne Bjorken
Mario;
I use a Nikon Coolpix 4300 with a Fantasea CP4 housing with attached Sea&Sea
20mm Wide conversion lens. In addition I light things up with an Epoque ES
150 DS.
The system works well and if bought from the right sources can cost less
then $1000.
Wayne Bjorken
www.springdivers.com

Post by Mario
Hello,
Are there any digital cameras for underwater photography ? how many
meters or feet they can reach? they have connection for external
stronger flash ? what is the lense aperture?
Please tell me what are good models of digital cameras for underwater
photography with and without underwater casing I mean no need of extra
housing for underwater are there any? how deep they can go ?
what about with housing digital cameras? which ones are considered
best?
thanks,
Mario

[Pat]

WHOOPS: Here is the URL:
http://www.fuertecases.com/CameraShield.html

Post by LCM
Those pics look great! Please explain the "shield".
Thanks,
Larry

Post by Pat
I use the "shield" with a Kodak CX4300 (Walmart $99) with the
fill-flash always on. I have taken 1000s of what I feel are
incredible pics for a total $150 setup...your choice! Here is one of
http://spectregunner.freeservers.com/
PS: Sorry about the pop-ups in advance---it is a free storage site!
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 13:44:19 GMT, "Wayne Bjorken"

Post by Wayne Bjorken
Mario;
I use a Nikon Coolpix 4300 with a Fantasea CP4 housing with attached Sea&Sea
20mm Wide conversion lens. In addition I light things up with an Epoque ES
150 DS.
The system works well and if bought from the right sources can cost less
then $1000.
Wayne Bjorken
www.springdivers.com

Post by Mario
Hello,
Are there any digital cameras for underwater photography ? how many
meters or feet they can reach? they have connection for external
stronger flash ? what is the lense aperture?
Please tell me what are good models of digital cameras for underwater
photography with and without underwater casing I mean no need of extra
housing for underwater are there any? how deep they can go ?
what about with housing digital cameras? which ones are considered
best?
thanks,
Mario

[Pat]

Here si the url I bought it from. They are an awesome
customer-service company that got it to me fast! It works excellent
and is quite durable too. I bought a second to keep handy for a
second camera.

Post by LCM
Those pics look great! Please explain the "shield".
Thanks,
Larry

Post by Pat
I use the "shield" with a Kodak CX4300 (Walmart $99) with the
fill-flash always on. I have taken 1000s of what I feel are
incredible pics for a total $150 setup...your choice! Here is one of
http://spectregunner.freeservers.com/
PS: Sorry about the pop-ups in advance---it is a free storage site!
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 13:44:19 GMT, "Wayne Bjorken"

Post by Wayne Bjorken
Mario;
I use a Nikon Coolpix 4300 with a Fantasea CP4 housing with attached Sea&Sea
20mm Wide conversion lens. In addition I light things up with an Epoque ES
150 DS.
The system works well and if bought from the right sources can cost less
then $1000.
Wayne Bjorken
www.springdivers.com

Post by Mario
Hello,
Are there any digital cameras for underwater photography ? how many
meters or feet they can reach? they have connection for external
stronger flash ? what is the lense aperture?
Please tell me what are good models of digital cameras for underwater
photography with and without underwater casing I mean no need of extra
housing for underwater are there any? how deep they can go ?
what about with housing digital cameras? which ones are considered
best?
thanks,
Mario

[Bryan Heit]

That system looks very interesting, but I have a quick Q for you. I
assume that your camera has a zoom lens, what do you do about that? Set
it at wide-field, zoom, mid-way?

Thanx

Bryan

Post by Pat
I use the "shield" with a Kodak CX4300 (Walmart $99) with the
fill-flash always on. I have taken 1000s of what I feel are
incredible pics for a total $150 setup...your choice! Here is one of
http://spectregunner.freeservers.com/
PS: Sorry about the pop-ups in advance---it is a free storage site!

[Pat]

You are assuming incorrectly. The Kodak CX4300 is a fixed lens with
only 3X digital (which I never use) zoom. Again, simplicity ona
budget with decent output is the key here. Now if I only can find an
undewater case for my new Panasonic FZ10!

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 08:29:55 -0700, Bryan Heit

Post by Bryan Heit
That system looks very interesting, but I have a quick Q for you. I
assume that your camera has a zoom lens, what do you do about that? Set
it at wide-field, zoom, mid-way?
Thanx
Bryan

Post by Pat
I use the "shield" with a Kodak CX4300 (Walmart $99) with the
fill-flash always on. I have taken 1000s of what I feel are
incredible pics for a total $150 setup...your choice! Here is one of
http://spectregunner.freeservers.com/
PS: Sorry about the pop-ups in advance---it is a free storage site!

[Bryan Heit]

Yeah, thought of that later. And I feel the pain of not being able to
get a case - I have a Canon G3, and the only case of it (Ikelite) costs
more then the camera...

Bryan

Post by Pat
You are assuming incorrectly. The Kodak CX4300 is a fixed lens with
only 3X digital (which I never use) zoom. Again, simplicity ona
budget with decent output is the key here. Now if I only can find an
undewater case for my new Panasonic FZ10!

[Jason O'Rourke]

Post by Bryan Heit
Yeah, thought of that later. And I feel the pain of not being able to
get a case - I have a Canon G3, and the only case of it (Ikelite) costs
more then the camera...

Definitely better off with the powershot series for casual UW. For the
(guessing) cost of the Ikelite housing, you can get a S45/50 and the housing.
I don't see shelling out that kind of money for a housing for anything short
of the digital rebel.

Worse, if the G3 floods, can you get a replacement?

[Darth Diver]

check the sealife reefmaster on the www.scubadiving.com I use them in my
rental dept and they rock!

Post by Mario
Hello,
Are there any digital cameras for underwater photography ? how many
meters or feet they can reach? they have connection for external
stronger flash ? what is the lense aperture?
Please tell me what are good models of digital cameras for underwater
photography with and without underwater casing I mean no need of extra
housing for underwater are there any? how deep they can go ?
what about with housing digital cameras? which ones are considered
best?
thanks,
Mario

[news]

There are U/W housings available for some of the Canon cameras. Depending
on what you need you may be able to find a deal on ebay or searching
google.com

Jay

Post by Mario
Hello,
Are there any digital cameras for underwater photography ? how many
meters or feet they can reach? they have connection for external
stronger flash ? what is the lense aperture?
Please tell me what are good models of digital cameras for underwater
photography with and without underwater casing I mean no need of extra
housing for underwater are there any? how deep they can go ?
what about with housing digital cameras? which ones are considered
best?
thanks,
Mario