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CDNN Scuba News Portal: In Harm's Way: The Wave Dancer Victims
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Scuba News
2003-09-18 13:47:10 UTC
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CDNN Scuba News Portal: In Harm's Way: The Wave Dancer Victims

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chilly
2003-09-18 16:09:24 UTC
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Still a very sad and horrific story.

However, when I see this:

"Lighthouse Reef, the Blue Hole, water as clear as Perrier."

It makes me wonder how much more of the story is in error and
sensationalized.
Salty
2003-09-19 02:11:04 UTC
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Post by chilly
Still a very sad and horrific story.
"Lighthouse Reef, the Blue Hole, water as clear as Perrier."
It makes me wonder how much more of the story is in error and
sensationalized.
You could always email Dave DeBarger and ask him. <hint>
I think some strong statements have made in the article such as :

"Water gushed in as they put on life vests and grabbed flashlights.
Which is what everyone on Wave Dancer should have been doing.
Instead, Dave DeBarger and Rick Patterson were heading to their cabins
when they encountered Captain Martin carrying a roll of duct tape.
Windows of the Aggressor were blowing out, he told them--let's tape
ours."

Everyone who was reading this NG at the time of the deaths of these
divers knows my position on this incident. I'm not surprised by the
'tone' of this report but one statement that I find surprising in this
report is this :

"Hughes and his lawyers maintain that the accident was caused by the
Aggressor, which struck Wave Dancer in the chaos of the storm, causing
it to break free. Hughes has a videotape, shot that night, that he
says confirms his version of events. However, he refused to make a
copy available to Adventure, saying it could only be viewed in his
presence or that of his lawyers."

Hughes blames the Aggressor ship ???!!! Incredible.

Regretfully, there is one statement from this article that I have said
all along. Maybe we can learn by it :

"But whatever the precise cause of the sinking, the fact remains that
if the passengers had not been on the boat, they all would be alive
today."
Dan Bracuk
2003-09-19 23:09:22 UTC
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***@hotmail.com (Salty) entertained us with:
:"But whatever the precise cause of the sinking, the fact remains that
:if the passengers had not been on the boat, they all would be alive
:today."

Absolutely. They could have looked at the forecast and not gone to Belize. Or
changed their mind once they got there and not gone on the boat.

But they made their choice and things didn't turn our so well.

Just another reason why their offspring should not become rich because of this.

Dan Bracuk
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Christopher Hamilton
2003-09-20 13:00:43 UTC
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That is kind of an asinine statement! If all the people in the WTC had
called in sick non of them would have been killed either, so is it their
fault? The responsibility of the ship and it's crew and passengers, is on
the captain of the ship. He is the only one that has the autonomy to gauge
weather and sea state and make the appropriate decisions regaurding the
safety of all souls on board.
Had to vent! my 2 cents!
Post by Dan Bracuk
:"But whatever the precise cause of the sinking, the fact remains that
:if the passengers had not been on the boat, they all would be alive
:today."
Absolutely. They could have looked at the forecast and not gone to Belize. Or
changed their mind once they got there and not gone on the boat.
But they made their choice and things didn't turn our so well.
Just another reason why their offspring should not become rich because of this.
Dan Bracuk
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got the inclination.
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Dan Bracuk
2003-09-20 13:07:32 UTC
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"Christopher Hamilton" <***@ns.sympatico.ca> entertained us with:
:That is kind of an asinine statement! If all the people in the WTC had
:called in sick non of them would have been killed either, so is it their
:fault?

Nobody should get rich because of their deaths either.

Dan Bracuk
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Michael Sutton
2003-09-18 21:27:34 UTC
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why wasn't the captain prosecuted? after all he was
in chafge of the vessel and passengers saftey.

It this had happened in US waters, he would have been
surely prosecuted.
Salty
2003-09-19 04:28:22 UTC
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why wasn't the captain prosecuted? after all he was
in chafge of the vessel and passengers saftey.
It this had happened in US waters, he would have been
surely prosecuted.
First off, it didn't happen in US waters. The ship didn't have to hold
to US standards... or to Canadian standards for that matter from what
I've read. Now, read the account just posted. An insurance group
settled the claim. And, if you recall the story from the beginning,
the Captain resigned a day or two after he helped to kill all of those
ppl. For all we know, he could have a suit pending against Hughes Corp
for directing him to do whatever he did...ie he could be suing his
employer, Hughes Corp. Or.... he could be experiencing a winfall at
the track/casino/stocks for his testimony. One never knows.
Michael Sutton
2003-09-19 13:37:02 UTC
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Post by Salty
First off, it didn't happen in US waters. The ship didn't have to hold
to US standards... or to Canadian standards for that matter from what
I've read.
yeah.... that's one of the problems. These US corporations
based here have their ships registered in other countries
so they don't have to meet US Coast Guard safety requirements.

It's not only Peter Huges, it's the big cruise lines also.

I remember reading the final report for the Fantome, the
large Windjammer sailing vessel. It went down in a hurricane
a couple years ago. All hands lost and never found. Interviews
with past crew members told of how much repair was needed on
that ship and how they had to keep pumps runing 7x24 just to
keep the engine room from flooding. It was registerd in
some small country that didn't require insurance, because
they couldn't get it. (Article on the report was in
Cruising World magazine I think).

pathetic these people were killed because of stupidity
and greed.
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