Discussion:
use of the reel and signaling bag as an ascent or deco line ?
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Mario
2004-09-02 15:02:43 UTC
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Hello,

I have read many articles on the group, but known seam to clearly
state how to use the reel together with a signaling bag to use the
line for ascent and/or decompression.

Can any one please recommend me any good aricles which discuss it ?
any web sites that discuss it ?

I have a scubapro reel and surface signaling bag.

Thanks,

Mario
Lee Bell
2004-09-02 15:59:17 UTC
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Post by Mario
I have read many articles on the group, but known seam to clearly
state how to use the reel together with a signaling bag to use the
line for ascent and/or decompression.
Can any one please recommend me any good aricles which discuss it ?
any web sites that discuss it ?
I have a scubapro reel and surface signaling bag.
Start the discussion yourself. The concept is pretty simple. The primary
risks are deflation of the bag if you use one open at the bottom (simple,
don't do that) and being pulled to the surface because the reel jammed after
release of the bag (make sure that doesn't happen). Other than that, what
are you interested in.

Lee
TonyH
2004-09-03 11:16:43 UTC
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Either join a local scuba club or take a scuba training course.

You won't learn anything properly without in-water tuition.
nobody
2004-09-03 13:03:46 UTC
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Tony,

Ever hear of a wreck off of NYC called the "New Wreck", in 110' with a
10' relief? Gonna dive it in a few weeks and cannot find any info.
Apparently it is a reasonably newly found wreck. The captain of the
boat, out of Brooklyn, mentioned that it is about 1.5 hours out of the
harbor.

Bart F.
Post by TonyH
Either join a local scuba club or take a scuba training course.
You won't learn anything properly without in-water tuition.
TonyP
2004-09-03 23:24:39 UTC
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Post by nobody
Tony,
Ever hear of a wreck off of NYC called the "New Wreck", in 110' with a
10' relief? Gonna dive it in a few weeks and cannot find any info.
Apparently it is a reasonably newly found wreck. The captain of the
boat, out of Brooklyn, mentioned that it is about 1.5 hours out of the
harbor.
Never heard of it. Taking the Jeanne II? We are suppose to be diving the
Linda this Sunday, but looking at the marine forecast (which has been
known to be wrong more than one time), 6-8 footers. Not a nice day.
Hopefully, we'll get out (Freeport, LI)

Al Wells
2004-09-03 18:02:18 UTC
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Post by Mario
Hello,
I have read many articles on the group, but known seam to clearly
state how to use the reel together with a signaling bag to use the
line for ascent and/or decompression.
Can any one please recommend me any good aricles which discuss it ?
any web sites that discuss it ?
I have a scubapro reel and surface signaling bag.
There is an excellent article on The Deco Stop by Mike Barnette
http://thedecostop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9056

You may have to register to read it, but it is free.

While you're at it, check out Mike's most excellent book, "Shipwrecks
of the Sunshine State.

al wells
Karl Denninger
2004-09-03 21:44:40 UTC
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Post by Mario
Hello,
I have read many articles on the group, but known seam to clearly
state how to use the reel together with a signaling bag to use the
line for ascent and/or decompression.
Can any one please recommend me any good aricles which discuss it ?
any web sites that discuss it ?
I have a scubapro reel and surface signaling bag.
Thanks,
Mario
The basics are simple.

The usual practice is to shoot the bag before you make your first gas switch
on ascent.

Attain neutral buoyancy. Insure you have enough line on the reel/spool for
your depth (getting yanked upward is bad, and so is having to let go and
losing your bag and reel/spool.) Be aware that if there is any current
you will need more line on your reel than your current depth.

Unstow bag, attach line.

Put a small amount of gas into the bag. A large amount is NOT required and
is in fact a bad idea; remember, what you put in there will expand as the
bag ascends! You can do this with your mouth (exhaling), or (assuming you
are using a long-hose rig) switch to the backup and purge a small amount in
from your primary. Insure you do not get tangled up in either the line or
the bag - runaway ascents are BAD!

Pay out the line until the bag surfaces. Retain a small amount of tension
on the line - important if the bag is an open bottom design so it does not
tip over and dump. Do not allow the reel/spool to jam.

Make your gas switch (if appropriate for your current depth) and ascend
according to your required decompression profile. Reel up the line as you
ascend, so as to keep the line at the proper length. DO NOT attach the
reel/spool to your kit; its bad to lose it (e.g. a boat runs it over and
hangs up on it!); its worse to get dragged to the surface unexpectedly!

That's the basics..... I strongly recommend practicing this in shallow water
before attempting it on a "real" dive.

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