maximun depth underwater case ?

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m***@hotmail.com

2006-08-09 18:40:08 UTC

Hello,

My CANON Ixus 700 digital underwater housing case DC70 says maximun
depth 40 meters, how much more deep you think I can take this housing?

I have taken it up to 45 meters and it work didnt flooded.

I need to know since I am planning to go deeper.

Please let me know if any of you have tried

Thanks,

Mario

Euge

2006-08-09 18:46:15 UTC

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Hi Mario,

I have an Olympus mju600 with PT-29 underwater case also rated to 40m. I've
brought it to 52m no problems.
I know its a different make and model etc, just my 2 cents worth.

Post by m***@hotmail.com
Hello,
My CANON Ixus 700 digital underwater housing case DC70 says maximun
depth 40 meters, how much more deep you think I can take this housing?
I have taken it up to 45 meters and it work didnt flooded.
I need to know since I am planning to go deeper.
Please let me know if any of you have tried
Thanks,
Mario

M McDowell

2006-08-09 19:13:08 UTC

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Much like Euge,

I have taken my Olympus camera and a PT010 housing down to 50m a few times
(rating of 40m). Todate I have had no problems with leaking/flooding.

Not sure if I was getting narked last time, but sitting on the english
channel sea bed at 50m, it felt like the presure was working against the
housing buttons. Either that or it's time to replace the camera and housing
(hint to the wife if she reads this!)

Happy diving

Ian

Marshall Karp

2006-08-09 19:17:10 UTC

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Boy, that's tough when you go over the rating. I'm sure the company
probably won't even have that information, but they might. If they don't
it's probably for some liability reasons.

If you want to find out and take the chance, I would take the empty housing
down with you to test it. Of course, I wonder about a cumulative effect,
where it is weakening over time, due to the unrated excess pressure.

Sure hope you don't hear a loud pop or bang someday.

Chris Guynn

2006-08-09 20:57:54 UTC

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Post by m***@hotmail.com
Hello,
My CANON Ixus 700 digital underwater housing case DC70 says maximun
depth 40 meters, how much more deep you think I can take this housing?

Maximum depth ratings are only put on the packaging for liability reasons.
Your camera should be fine at any depth you choose to take it.

Or maybe I'm just full of crap.

J. Clarke

2006-08-10 13:53:44 UTC

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Post by m***@hotmail.com
Hello,
My CANON Ixus 700 digital underwater housing case DC70 says maximun
depth 40 meters, how much more deep you think I can take this housing?

Maximum depth ratings are only put on the packaging for liability reasons.
Your camera should be fine at any depth you choose to take it.
Or maybe I'm just full of crap.

You are. It's a pressure issue, the deeper you go the more pressure. Go
deep enough and a titanium submarine hull gets crushed.

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David In NH

2006-08-10 00:11:20 UTC

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My Canon case is rated to 100 feet and has made it to 148 (and back!)
without a problem.

Anonymous Loser

2006-08-10 00:19:52 UTC

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Canon A40 in genuine housing, rated to 30m
I've had it to 36, no problems.

Well, the photo's came out rubbish but the
housing worked perfectly, just like normal...

A.L.

RayC

2006-08-10 00:55:24 UTC

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You may be able to take the case well beyond your own limit and have it
stay intact. However, the depth will act on the connections, fittings,
switches, ec so that pushing a button down may make it stay down. Or
maybe teh seals will be shoved so tight against the through connection
that makes operation impossible. Again, the housing may survive fine,
but it might just be useless.

Just my SWAG (scientific wild ass guess)

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SpringDiver

2006-08-10 00:53:52 UTC

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The controls will fail before the housing.

Wayne

unknown

2006-08-10 09:56:17 UTC

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RTFM

Neil Ellwood

2006-08-10 11:56:45 UTC

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Post by m***@hotmail.com
Hello,
My CANON Ixus 700 digital underwater housing case DC70 says maximun
depth 40 meters, how much more deep you think I can take this housing?

No deeper.

Post by m***@hotmail.com
I have taken it up to 45 meters and it work didnt flooded.

It wouldn't as by that time it was still in air.

Post by m***@hotmail.com
I need to know since I am planning to go deeper.

Get a housing guaranteed to go deeper.

Post by m***@hotmail.com
Please let me know if any of you have tried

Why would anyone be so silly?

Post by m***@hotmail.com
Thanks,
Mario

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poddys

2006-08-10 12:41:44 UTC

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Isn't the recommended depth for sport diving around 100 feet (under 35
metres), so either you are all taking great risks in going so deep, or
you are in a profession where you have special equipment / breathing
gear that allows this.

In that case, wouldn't you be able to justify a better housing for the
camera that is warranteed for that depth?

Just a thought.............

M McDowell

2006-08-10 13:50:01 UTC

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With PADI, the advanced open water allows you to the 30 metre mark, with the
Deep diver course this takes you down to the 40 metre mark.

If you want to go beyond this, you have to start looking at specialist
courses - i.e. TDI (I'm sure there are others, but I have only done TDI)

The advanced decompression diver allows you to plan and dive to 45 meters,
and the extended range up to 60 meters. Beyond this depth you will be
looking at tri-mix diving.

the max I have dived is 52 meters, and this was with a twin set & a stage
bottle for the deco stops. For the first few dives at the 40/50 metre mark
the camera did not go with me, as there is the small task of task loading -
try not to have too many things to think about on each dive as this can add
to the stress levels.

Just remember to enjoy your diving, and stay within the level of your
qualifications.

Ian

Post by poddys
Isn't the recommended depth for sport diving around 100 feet (under 35
metres), so either you are all taking great risks in going so deep, or
you are in a profession where you have special equipment / breathing
gear that allows this.
In that case, wouldn't you be able to justify a better housing for the
camera that is warranteed for that depth?
Just a thought.............

bob crownfield

2006-08-11 02:11:27 UTC

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Post by M McDowell
With PADI, the advanced open water allows you to the 30 metre mark, with the
Deep diver course this takes you down to the 40 metre mark.
If you want to go beyond this, you have to start looking at specialist
courses - i.e. TDI (I'm sure there are others, but I have only done TDI)

several errors here:

you can dive to any depth you want any time you want,
with any rating you want.
padi is selling ratings, and imposes arbitrary limits on you
unless you buy another course..

use good judgment about what you do and where you do it.
think, learn, and understand before you do things.
your life depends on it.
your life does not depend on any padi rating.

Philippe

2006-08-11 13:38:16 UTC

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Post by bob crownfield

Post by M McDowell
With PADI, the advanced open water allows you to the 30 metre mark,
with the Deep diver course this takes you down to the 40 metre mark.
If you want to go beyond this, you have to start looking at specialist
courses - i.e. TDI (I'm sure there are others, but I have only done TDI)

you can dive to any depth you want any time you want,
with any rating you want.
padi is selling ratings, and imposes arbitrary limits on you
unless you buy another course..
use good judgment about what you do and where you do it.
think, learn, and understand before you do things.
your life depends on it.
your life does not depend on any padi rating.

The PADI ratings reflect the training you get more than what you
can/can't do.. Unless you're an avid diver (geek-like in your research)
or a career diver, you won't get the experience required to hit the
deeper marks without some sort of training..

We've had guys die in under 10 ft of water because they were stupid
(local Dive community, Victoria BC) whereas ships divers (navy) get so
much training it's stupid..

But like the man said; use your head; your life (and likely that of your
diving partner) depends on it..

P.

Lee Bell

2006-08-11 15:15:35 UTC

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The PADI ratings reflect the training you get more than what you can/can't
do.

You mean the training you were supposed to get and the skills you were
supposed to master, right?

Unless you're an avid diver (geek-like in your research) or a career
diver, you won't get the experience required to hit the deeper marks
without some sort of training.

I guess that includes most of us. Since we're not, for the most part,
career divers, I suppose we must be geek-like. Strange, I don't recall ever
considering myself geek-like.

But like the man said; use your head; your life (and likely that of your
diving partner) depends on it..

Yep.

Nigel Hewitt

2006-08-10 14:14:27 UTC

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This is cross-posted to all sorts of groups and many of us think
that 40m and below is normal because that's where the interesting
things to see are.

Anyway... I like my equipment to be certified for deeper than me
then I only have to worry about me.

nigelH

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Dan Bracuk

2006-08-10 23:50:39 UTC

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"Nigel Hewitt" <***@hotmail.co.uk> pounded away at his
keyboard resulting in:

:This is cross-posted to all sorts of groups and many of us think
:that 40m and below is normal because that's where the interesting
:things to see are.

Different strokes for different folks. I think 40 ft and up is much
more interesting than deep and dark.

Dan Bracuk
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SpringDiver

2006-08-11 02:08:44 UTC

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Post by Dan Bracuk
:This is cross-posted to all sorts of groups and many of us think
:that 40m and below is normal because that's where the interesting
:things to see are.
Different strokes for different folks. I think 40 ft and up is much
more interesting than deep and dark.
Dan Bracuk
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Me too Dan. However I had a cool experience spear fishing at 100' 25
miles off of Daytona. I stabbed a gray trigger fish and while I was
wrestling him into to my bag I noticed this neon green stuff wafting
out of the holes that the paralyzer tip made. Lighting the fish up
with my little lamp quickly identified the substance as blood. I
thought I'd got ET there for a moment. Yuk Yuk.

Same place. There were millions of sand dollars on the shelf reef
(lack of a better term). The black ones were alive and the white ones
were dead.

GOT TO TAKE A LIGHT for deep. Of course I knew that (now let's sing
together) "For PADI told me so......".

Nigel Hewitt

2006-08-11 07:46:59 UTC

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Post by Dan Bracuk

Post by Nigel Hewitt
This is cross-posted to all sorts of groups and many of us think
that 40m and below is normal because that's where the interesting
things to see are.

Different strokes for different folks. I think 40 ft and up is much
more interesting than deep and dark.

If you're into fish and stuff that's true as the majority of life needs
the light to florish but I came to scuba from archeology and the more
intact stuff and the unknown, unidentified, undocumented wrecks are
deeper so that's where I like to go. My camera is my recording device
so it has to work at max depth and my 40m Olympus housing has run at 60m
although I have had buttons stick in and need to be pulled back (which
is a bitch in 7mm gloves).

I can't advise how deep a case will go because although you can be
pretty confident down to the rated depth you don't know what will give
first below that. I have accepted that one day I will bring home a case
full of seawater containing electronic scrap and the priority then will
be to rescue the card with anything from that day. The camera itself
was expensive when I bought it but once it went out of fashion I
discovered I could get 'as new' on ebay for a quarter the origonal
price so I have some spares.

nigelH

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Star

2006-08-10 14:25:07 UTC

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Not all of us here are strictly "recreational divers."

Quotes because I consider all my dives to be fun = recreational, or I
wouldn't do them.

Post by poddys
In that case, wouldn't you be able to justify a better housing for the
camera that is warranteed for that depth?

Sometimes.

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David In NH

2006-08-11 00:45:34 UTC

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I bought the camera before I knew there was even a housing available for it.
When I started diving with the camera and housing (generally shore dives
under 60' max depth) it was adequate. At the current time, the camera isn't
worth much anyway and if I lose it due to the housing leaking, I'll just get
that new camera I've been putting off buying. Hence, taking it to the Blue
Hole wasn't a big concern - if it flooded, so be it. It didn't and still
works fine so I guess I'll have to look for another excuse to buy a new one.

Dan Bracuk

2006-08-11 01:01:55 UTC

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"David In NH" <***@gmail.com> pounded away at his keyboard
resulting in:
:. It didn't and still
:works fine so I guess I'll have to look for another excuse to buy a new one.

How about, I want a new camera? Isn't that a good enough excuse?

Dan Bracuk
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Bill Funk

2006-08-10 19:40:03 UTC

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I don't dive.
But, be very careful when people tell you they've taken their cases
below the maximum rated depth and they've had no problems. The mfgrs
don't list a rated depth for nothing. Their liability is limited to
what they list as the maximum; go beyond that, and your camera is your
problem.
But, have fun anyway! :-)

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